> > "Some time later Lesniewski told me that
> > he had found the required axiom sitting
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> (What's "nomimalism"?)
It is the view that what seem to be names of universals or abstract
objects don't actual name a corresponding reality.
So, for example, while there are white things there is nothing that the
word "white" names, and while there are solitary things there is nothing
that the word "one" names.
Quine was a nominalist of the there-are-no-abstract-objects variety.
Since Lesniewski and Lukasiewicz were both logicians, I though it was
not off-topic (and in any case sci.logic seems to be full of nonsense at
the moment).
> >From page 78 of Lukasiewicz: _Symposium: The Principle of Individuation
> >I_, Aristotelian Society, supplementary volume 27.
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> (John Jones, "My talk about Godel to the post-grads."
> in sci.logic.)

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Frederick Williams - 30 Oct 2008 10:50 GMT
David Ullrich asked:
> > (What's "nomimalism"?)
Oops, silly me, I answered the question "What's nominalism?" instead of
the question 'What's "nominalism"?'.
Ha ha, well done.

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David C. Ullrich - 30 Oct 2008 11:59 GMT
>David Ullrich asked:
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>Ha ha, well done.
Rats - I wish I could take credit for that, it would be funny.
Alas in fact I meant to ask the first question, not nearly
clever enough to be making a joke about the distinction.
David C. Ullrich
"Understanding Godel isn't about following his formal proof.
That would make a mockery of everything Godel was up to."
(John Jones, "My talk about Godel to the post-grads."
in sci.logic.)
herbzet - 30 Oct 2008 21:27 GMT
> Quine was a nominalist of the there-are-no-abstract-objects variety.
I'm not sure that Quine is quite the nominalist poster boy.
At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willard_Van_Orman_Quine#Set_theory
it says:
"He flirted with Nelson Goodman's nominalism for a while, but
backed away when he failed to find a nominalist grounding of
mathematics."
At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Goodman#Nominalism_and_mereology
it says:
"Goodman, along with Stanislaw Lesniewski, is the founder of the
contemporary variant of nominalism, which argues that philosophy,
logic, and mathematics should dispense with set theory. Goodman's
nominalism was driven purely by ontological considerations. After
a long and difficult 1947 paper coauthored with W. V. O. Quine,
Goodman ceased to trouble himself with finding a way to reconstruct
mathematics while dispensing with set theory -"
In Quine's "Mathematical Logic" revised edition of 1951, Quine says in
section 22:
"Once classes are freed thus of any deceptive hint of tangibility,
there is little reason to distinguish them from properties ...
Discourse in general, mathematical and otherwise, involves
continual reference to to abstract entities of this sort --
classes or properties. One may prefer to regard abstractions
as fictions or manners of speaking; one may hope to find a
method whereby all ostensible reference to abstract entities
can be explained as mere shorthand for a more basic idiom
involving reference to concrete objects (in some sense or
other). Such a nominalistic program presents extreme
difficulty, if much of standard mathematics is to be really
analyzed and reduced rather than merely repudiated; however
it is not known to be impossible. If a nominalistic theory
of this sort should be achieved, we may gladly accept it as
the theoretical underpinning of our present ostensible reference
to so-called abstract entities; meanwhile, however, we have no
choice but to admit those abstract entities as part of our
ultimate subject matter ...
Our working ontology is thus pretty liberal. But in mitigation,
it may now be said that this is the end; no abstract objects
other than classes are needed -- no relations, functions,
numbers, etc., except insofar as these are construed simply
as classes. In addition to concrete objects we need recognize
only classes having such objects as members, then classes whose
members are drown from the thus supplemented totality, and so on.
This is presumably all the ontology that is needed for discourse
in general; certainly it is all that is needed for mathematics ...
It would even be possible, compatibly with the projected formal
developments and indeed with the whole of mathematics, to repudiate
concrete objects altogether -- to recognize just classes, each of
which has classes in turn as members or else no members whatever ...
This exclusively abstract ontology has little naturalness to
recommend it, but there is no need here to reject or accept it."
I don't know whether the above paragraphs were written in the 1940
edition (pre-Goodman paper) or for the revised 1951 (post-Goodman)
edition.
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hz