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ulmo@cheerful.com - 05 Jan 2007 23:09 GMT
As far as I can tell, the rotations that you can do to the platonic
solids that leave them looking the same is rotating about either the
center of a face or a vertex. For a cube, you can rotate each face by
either 1/4 rotation, 1/2 rotation, or 3/4 rotation. If you rotate by
4/4 or 360 degees, that's just the identity. You can rotate around each
vertex by either 1/3 rotation or 2/3 rotation. So there are 3 possible
rotations for each face, and 2 possible rotations for each vertex,
which gives you

6 x 3 = 18

8 x 2 = 16

18 + 16 = 34

If you like, you could add the identity, so that's 35.

However, in Felix Klein's book, he describes the number of rotations
for each polyhedron as being some number larger than the numbers you
get from applying the above calculation to each polyhedron. What other
possible rotations are there?

David
Lee Rudolph - 05 Jan 2007 23:56 GMT
>As far as I can tell, the rotations that you can do to the platonic
>solids that leave them looking the same is rotating about either the
>center of a face or a vertex.

That's not *quite* a description, though it's clear enough what you
mean.
...
>What other
>possible rotations are there?

Allowing myself the same degree of slop: rotating "about the center
of an edge".

Lee Rudolph
G. A. Edgar - 06 Jan 2007 00:49 GMT
> As far as I can tell, the rotations that you can do to the platonic
> solids that leave them looking the same is rotating about either the
> center of a face or a vertex.

Rotating about the center of a face you get the same thing
as rotation bout the center of the opposite face, so you
are counting all of yours twice.

Why not also allow rotation about the center of an edge?

> For a cube, you can rotate each face by
> either 1/4 rotation, 1/2 rotation, or 3/4 rotation. If you rotate by
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>
> If you like, you could add the identity, so that's 35.

Actually, that's 17+1=18; plus 12 / 2 = 6 for the edges,
so I get a total of 24.  Does Klein include reflections also?
Then we will have 48.

> However, in Felix Klein's book, he describes the number of rotations
> for each polyhedron as being some number larger than the numbers you
> get from applying the above calculation to each polyhedron. What other
> possible rotations are there?
>
> David

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JEMebius - 06 Jan 2007 17:47 GMT
>As far as I can tell, the rotations that you can do to the platonic
>solids that leave them looking the same is rotating about either the
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>David
>  

Perhaps a newsgroup post I made some weeks ago is helpful. The topic is
the homomorphism of S4 onto S3, which is explained by means of rotations
of the cube.
The enumeration is easily done: 1 non-rotation; 3 plus 6 half-turns; 6
quarter-turns; 8 120deg-turns. Voilà!

Ciao: Johan E. Mebius

( my post in news:sci.math of November 16th 2007 - Subject: Re:
Surprisingly hard group theory problem- )
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In my opinion the most beautiful illustration of the S4 - V4 - S3 issue
is given by the group of rotational congruence transformations of the
cube. This group is isomorphic to S4 by permuting the body diagonals 1,
2, 3, 4 of the cube.

Observe what happens with the line segments connecting the three pairs
of opposite centres of faces. Denote them by A, B, C. As the body
diagonals are being permuted in all ways, A, B and C are also permuted
in all ways, and furthermore, composition of permutations of 1, 2, 3, 4
corresponds to composition of permutations of A, B, C. So there is a
homomorphism of S4 onto S3.

Half-turns around each of the axes A, B, C reverse the directions of the
other two axes. They do not permute the set A, B, C. Observe what
happens in the meantime to the body diagonals: they are permuted
pair-pairwise: (12)(34), (13)(42), (14)(23).
Here one sees Klein's four-group V4 faithfully represented as a normal
subgroup of S4. It is the kernel of the homomorphism mentioned previously.

By now it is not too difficult to visualize and to list a complete
homomorphism S4 -> S3:
all three-cycles of 1, 2, 3, 4 correspond to rotations over 120 degrees
around the body diagonals. In S3 they corresopond to the three-cycles
(ABC) and (ACB).

In passing one observes here the other famous homomorphism related to
Klein's four-group: A4 -> C3 with V4 as its kernel and C3 as its factor
group.

Four-cycles of 1, 2, 3, 4 correspond to quarter-turns around A, B, C,
and in S3 to the transpositions (AB), (BC), (CA).
alainverghote@yahoo.fr - 07 Jan 2007 10:24 GMT
JEMebius a écrit :

> >As far as I can tell, the rotations that you can do to the platonic
> >solids that leave them looking the same is rotating about either the
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> >
> >18 + 16 = 34

I have very recently read in the issue 'Scientific American'
a very nice way of dealing with this kind of problem;
it was intitled: Miraculous Burnside's lemma
Alain
> >If you like, you could add the identity, so that's 35.
> >
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> Four-cycles of 1, 2, 3, 4 correspond to quarter-turns around A, B, C,
> and in S3 to the transpositions (AB), (BC), (CA).
 
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