Hello folks
I am a physician who works in Mexico. I would like to predict the
weight of a fetus before birth through ultrasound measurements. There
are many studies which have published an equation or a formulae in
order to estimate fetal weight, and the equation has been obtained
from independent variables (parameters of ultrasound). Unfortunately,
none of these studies has been done in Mexican population.
I have collected the birth weight (dependent variable) of almost 500
newborns (NB). I hav also collected 13 ultrasound measurements
(independent variables) per fetus in the 48 hours prior to birth
(prenatal stage). My goal is to find an equation or formula to predict
the weight of the baby using ultrasound variables (independent
variables). I have read about this and I think I have to run a linear
regression in which the dependent variable would be the birth weight,
and ultrasound variables would be included as independent variables.
According to what I have read, I have to choose a "selection of
variables backwards method" by which I will obtain a linear model.
The problem is that I have no experience on how to perform this, and
after running the regression, at the results window I get a series of
data such us tables (descriptive statistics, correlation, included/
deleted variables, a summary model, ANOVA, analysis of colinearity,
excluded variables), and Graphics. What is the right way to run the
multiple regression? How can I get the model from these data? Which
data must be included in the equation? Thanks in advance for your
help.
PS: Sorry for my english
mcap - 03 Jul 2009 17:31 GMT
> Hello folks
> I am a physician who works in Mexico. I would like to predict the
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> help.
> PS: Sorry for my english
It's hard to get fully what you intend but I am guessing you want to
predict the birthweight based on a series of measurements with
ultrasound. Could you be specific about what the measurements
entail? Are they similar? Are there ways to combine some of them?
You could use linear regression but you have a few issues to
consider. One the residuals must be relatively normally
distributed. Your continuous predictors should be centered and
linear with the dep var (roughly). If your measures are highly
related to each other then you will have multicollinearity. It sounds
like this would be a problem here. You may have to find a way to
combine some of them or eliminate some prior to running your
regression
I think the folks on this board could recommend some texts to
consider. Tabachnick and Fidell is a reasonable and readable
multivariate book with some complete examples of linear regresion.
You could also seek out a consultant.
Stepwise regression is not recommended for a few reasons, one being
that it puts all of the decisions in your computer's hands. You
should think carefully ahead of time, in clinical terms, about what
the measurements represent, how they are related and when you should
enter them into your equations.
Best,
Marc
Bruce Weaver - 03 Jul 2009 18:42 GMT
> Hello folks
> I am a physician who works in Mexico. I would like to predict the
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> from independent variables (parameters of ultrasound). Unfortunately,
> none of these studies has been done in Mexican population.
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For those who are interested, there have been some replies to the same
post in the Medstats Google group (http://groups.google.com/group/
MedStats).
--
Bruce Weaver
bweaver@lakeheadu.ca
http://sites.google.com/a/lakeheadu.ca/bweaver/
"When all else fails, RTFM."
Art Kendall - 03 Jul 2009 19:24 GMT
You might want to try getting the predicted birth weights with your
method and correlating them to the predicted birth weights from the
other sources.
You might also want to try using the same constructs to predict birth
weight that previous studied did and compare and contrast the resulting
equations.
Art Kendall
>> Hello folks
>> I am a physician who works in Mexico. I would like to predict the
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> http://sites.google.com/a/lakeheadu.ca/bweaver/
> "When all else fails, RTFM."
Rich Ulrich - 03 Jul 2009 20:42 GMT
>> Hello folks
>> I am a physician who works in Mexico. I would like to predict the
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>
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Stepwise regression (in the snipped portion) has its special uses, but
it is in low enough repute these days that some journals have
guidelines stating that it generally should be avoided.
>For those who are interested, there have been some replies to the same
>post in the Medstats Google group (http://groups.google.com/group/
>MedStats).
That URL gave me an error. I think this one will find the message,
and then you can expand the thread.
http://groups.google.com/group/MedStats/msg/683c0b0026811df9?hl=en
As they suggest, too, I think you should start with validating
what has been previously published. -- And then look to see if
you can say anything about deviations from those prediction.

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Rich Ulrich
Barb - 06 Jul 2009 22:53 GMT
To make sense out of the output (the results of your analysis), you
should first see which variables are significant at predicting the
birth weight (in the coefficients table). If you want to create a
formula, you would technically multiply (for each baby) the bêta by
the appropriate data point (say your bêta for ultrasound at -2 hours
is .519, you would multiply the measurement at -2 hours by .519) and
then add them together. That should (I think) give you the predicted
weight of the baby.
Hope this helps a little!