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Re: So they lied

mensanator@aol.compost17 Jun 2006 05:15
> >>>>> > Trouble is, the worst thing for people faking at being
> >>>>> > mathematicians
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>
> which monte python was that from ?

Season One Episode Four: Self-Defense.

   RSM: Right! Bananas! How to defend yourself against a man armed
        with a banana. (to first man) Here, you take this. (throws
        him a banana) Now it's quite simple to defend yourself
        against the banana fiend. First of all, you force him to
        drop the banana, next, you eat the banana, thus disarming
        him. You have now rendered him helpless.

2nd Man: Supposing he's got a bunch.

   RSM: Shut up!

4th Man: Supposing he's got a pointed stick.

   RSM: Shut up.

Spice Melange17 Jun 2006 02:58
>>>>> > Trouble is, the worst thing for people faking at being
>>>>> > mathematicians
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>
> ... of a pointed stick?

which monte python was that from ?

The Last Danish Pastry15 Jun 2006 21:29
>>>> > Trouble is, the worst thing for people faking at being
>>>> > mathematicians
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>
> Which was my point.

... of a pointed stick?

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David Moran15 Jun 2006 21:24
>>> > Trouble is, the worst thing for people faking at being mathematicians
>>> > is someone who actually is a mathematician.
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> Stephen

Which was my point.

Dave

stephen@nomail.com15 Jun 2006 14:54
>> > Trouble is, the worst thing for people faking at being mathematicians
>> > is someone who actually is a mathematician.
>>
>> You should know that first hand.

> Er, how could he? He's _not_ a mathematician.

But he is someone faking at being a mathematician.

Stephen

MTD15 Jun 2006 12:45
> > Trouble is, the worst thing for people faking at being mathematicians
> > is someone who actually is a mathematician.
>
> You should know that first hand.

Er, how could he? He's _not_ a mathematician.

David Moran15 Jun 2006 11:33
> Trouble is, the worst thing for people faking at being mathematicians
> is someone who actually is a mathematician.

You should know that first hand.

> A person like me comes around only every hundred years or so, and
> people forget.

Nah, I can think of a lot of Cranks, you being at the top.

Dave

jstevh@msn.com15 Jun 2006 06:48
I first began to get a real grasp of the true situation when I was
arguing about my prime counting function, which is actually THE prime
counting function, and after yet another useless argument on sci.math
with some regulars, it occurred to me, they had to know.

They had to know that what I had actually was different from what was
previously known in key ways, but they were deliberately lying about
it.

Now I have found a new factoring method.

Literally trillions of dollars WILL move as a result, but for now, you
can see the quiet as these people keep lying.

How is it possible?

Mathematics is a difficult discipline.

Or you can say, math is hard.

Most people shy away from it because it IS so hard, but a few people
learned that while doing real mathematics was hard, LOOKING like you
were doing real mathematics was easier.

So they fake it.

Trouble is, the worst thing for people faking at being mathematicians
is someone who actually is a mathematician.

So they beat up such people, force them out of the discipline, and
drown them out with crowd forces.

Their loophole was the reality that major mathematicians only come
around once every couple of hundred years, so they got away with it for
a bit over a hundred years, and I was forced into my destiny.

If it were up to me, I'd be doing so many other things than this.

But it's not up to me, I'm driven by some overwhelming force that makes
me fight against these people pretending to be real mathematicians, and
so, here we are.

The encryption system that they said was so powerful--because they're
not real mathematicians--is now, as I type this, broken.  The world
does not know this because the social forces are that strong, but
eventually the truth will be known.

These people are people some of you admire and trust, who have sat
back, for years now, clearly I think, believing that social forces
could stop someone like me.

But mathematics is more than just a word.

The proof for those of you who hoped, believed, or just wanted to deny
the truth is in that new factoring method, which if the people you
thought were mathematicians actually were, then they'd be talking about
it everywhere, warning the world, excited about it, and working on
solutions to protect OUR WORLD.

But instead, they are quiet, leaving the doors open, leaving the world
vulnerable.  Leaving it possible for innocents to suffer or even die
because they are not who they claim to be.

But I am.

The choice is yours.  I can't do it alone.

These people will let civilization crumble.  They will let terrorists
and other criminals, or anyone who has the will and know-how to use the
mathematics in an evil way, do it, without the world knowing because it
trusts them because they are not who they claim to be.

You may die if you do nothing, and isn't that fair?

Is life really not fair, or are most people cowards to the truth?

A person like me comes around only every hundred years or so, and
people forget.

And then a LOT of people die, and then the mythologies are written,
legends are born.

But make no mistake, you might be one of those people who die THIS
time.

I suggest to you that even if you don't give a damn about mathematics,
couldn't care less about what is truth, why should you protect fakes
who have betrayed you, yet again, and in their inability to understand
and their lack of intelligence, they leave the world vulnerable,
because this time, to stop this post, all they had to do was step
up--and protect the world?

TODAY they could have stepped up to protect the world.

Die for them?

Why?

And even if you won't die, why let anyone else?

Their quiet is your answer if you had questions.

Yes, they lied.  They betrayed the world.  And they lost.

Question now is, who loses with them?

James Harris

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